tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12559663.post4125387436563659783..comments2016-12-27T01:01:04.824-05:00Comments on A GeekyMomma's Blog: The Vilification of Class Dojo and Other Ways To Avoid Taking Responsibility For YourselfLee Kolberthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14710085354049378555noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12559663.post-22571497417955721242014-11-30T19:17:06.790-05:002014-11-30T19:17:06.790-05:00Hi my name is Edna Montgomery, I am a student in E...Hi my name is Edna Montgomery, I am a student in EDM310 at the University of South Alabama in Mobile, Alabama. The ending of your blog sums up what is needed in the homes which helps the classroom. Your blog is a winner with lots of approval by any educator. Classroom management is a problem. I am studying to be an educator. Teachers that I know are warning me that disruptive students are a big problem.Edna Montgomeryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13298150324534474342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12559663.post-42704104321424465002014-11-26T07:48:39.942-05:002014-11-26T07:48:39.942-05:00Amen! It's the same thing in Mexico, kids are...Amen! It's the same thing in Mexico, kids are lost, they don't get educated at home, and it makes it harder for teachers to teach.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12559663.post-52545187815881137652014-11-26T05:44:44.117-05:002014-11-26T05:44:44.117-05:00@Paul
Is there a place for both intrinsic motivato...@Paul<br />Is there a place for both intrinsic motivators and extrinsic in the classroom? Can you only have one or the other? How many people would drive beyond the speed limit if there were no penalty of a fine? Lee Kolberthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14710085354049378555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12559663.post-90401932465216747222014-11-26T05:42:47.085-05:002014-11-26T05:42:47.085-05:00@Johne
You are correct; in certain circumstances w...@Johne<br />You are correct; in certain circumstances we do expect adults to also raise their hands but we are looser. As we give children more misplaced authority, the line of distinction gets blurrier.Lee Kolberthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14710085354049378555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12559663.post-37231591161499646072014-11-26T05:39:16.387-05:002014-11-26T05:39:16.387-05:00@Bill
You are right and I was not clear. It is ac...@Bill <br />You are right and I was not clear. It is actually the misinterpretation of FERPA that causes people to overreact and do bizarre things -in the name of- FERPA. I should have been more clear. Thank you.Lee Kolberthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14710085354049378555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12559663.post-21787356815619115842014-11-25T20:47:40.581-05:002014-11-25T20:47:40.581-05:00A nit, perhaps.
In meetings of adults with 20 pl...A nit, perhaps. <br /><br />In meetings of adults with 20 plus adults, such as conferences with Q&A, adults do raise their hands and the speaker calls on them.<br /><br />We only ask students to raise their hands when they are in groups. <br /><br />When we have a dialogue with kids, or adults, the normal rules of conversation apply. <br /><br />But in other ways, we do have different rules for kids and adults. Kids are required to obey teachers and they have no right to opt out or quit.<br /><br /> Adults are expected to obey their boss but we, as adults, have the option of quitting our jobs if the rules or orders become unreasonable.<br /> Johnehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01573208587118088567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12559663.post-32185338417914497902014-11-25T14:58:16.199-05:002014-11-25T14:58:16.199-05:00I think this was great! I totally agree with all t...I think this was great! I totally agree with all the points made. It seems more and more parents are showing up at schools, outraged because their child got in trouble that day. It's time for parents to step up and when their kids come home whining about the mean teacher that got on to them, mom and dad should look at them and say "well, what were you doing wrong?" I'm not saying kids are ALWAYS in the wrong. Some teachers handle situations wrongly and make mistakes. But it seems they cannot be corrected for anything anymore.Ashton Dykeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09876178620596786264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12559663.post-26288482928753253612014-11-24T21:28:30.837-05:002014-11-24T21:28:30.837-05:00This post throws a lot of misinformation about FER...This post throws a lot of misinformation about FERPA, among other things. <br /><br />Especially given that since the inception of FERPA 40 years ago, there have been a grand total of 0 - yes, zero - penalties for FERPA. So, the whole "political correctness under FERPA" bit doesn't really add up.Bill Fitzgeraldhttp://funnymonkey.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12559663.post-60674085211999755252014-11-24T19:48:40.353-05:002014-11-24T19:48:40.353-05:00While I agree with your premise here I think the c...While I agree with your premise here I think the challenge here is that class dojo offers an easy way for people to implement something that for many, is harmful to children. <br /><br />There are many technologies that allow for relatively poor pedagogy but not necessarily harmful. I think that's why this topic is perhaps more volatile than others. Yes, the user bears the bulk of the responsibility but I wonder what responsibility the creators have to promote more ethical uses? I would guess this is where Class Dojo themselves struggle given they may not want to take sides on this issue. They certainly provide a popular and useful tool. Dean Shareskihttp://ideasandthoughts.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12559663.post-36092004233170592982014-11-24T00:02:51.380-05:002014-11-24T00:02:51.380-05:00Great post! I love Dojo and it is one of the educa...Great post! I love Dojo and it is one of the educational tools in my "toolbox" that is very effective in helping me provide feedback and support for learning skills. My parent contact and communication improved so much with Dojo too - and it is easy to jot additional notes to a parent. I really feel it is helping me work more effectively with my parents. As a formative assessment tool (we're now calling this Assessment for Learning here in Ontario), Class Dojo ROCKS! I can use Dojo AND interact with my students - unlike the paper checklists I used to try to use! <br />My comments: http://momahony.edublogs.org/?p=12Meg O'Mahonyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04736612169924127912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12559663.post-48555787557543415772014-11-23T16:24:06.416-05:002014-11-23T16:24:06.416-05:00Excellent points, Lee. I particularly appreciate t...Excellent points, Lee. I particularly appreciate the ones about how it is appropriate to treat children differently than adults. I recently retweeted a comment pointing out the incongruity of supporting Class Dojo for students and not for teachers. You made this point well.<br /><br />I wonder how many communities have this situation where students are no longer rewarded for achievement, but for participation only? I may be wrong but I don't think this has happened everywhere. I've heard about schools where they did away with the honor roll because parents of kids who weren't on it were mad it was "outing" their own kids' lower performance, but I've never taught in a school district or had my kids attend in a district where that happened. <br /><br />It is ironic that while we have that kind of egalitarian push in public schools, in professional sports we certainly don't.<br /><br />It seems to me that the tail is wagging the dog when it comes to FERPA. I know of a Texas school district that bans it's teachers from even talking about educational technology tools / websites at outside conferences that are not formally approved of by the district. Usually this has to do with FERPA and TOS. Legal compliance is important, but as you point out the requirement for parental consent can address this.<br /><br />Thanks for "stirring the pot" again! :-)Wesley Fryerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03502157354436518160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12559663.post-51544969581445826512014-11-23T16:15:46.898-05:002014-11-23T16:15:46.898-05:00You're right, Class Dojo is similar to checks ...You're right, Class Dojo is similar to checks on the board, stickers on a chart, words of encouragement, pat on the back, wink of the eye, smile, etc.The problem being that all of these are extrinsic motivators, and are no where near as powerful as intrinsic motivators. With a system like Class Dojo, students only behave to avoid or gain an external teacher led sanction. What that teaches students is to surrender their desire to learn for themselves.paul mosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12126298713053078064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12559663.post-4226607450658913252014-11-22T23:52:23.253-05:002014-11-22T23:52:23.253-05:00Nice post. @mramidonNice post. @mramidonMr. Amidonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17079054446893864103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12559663.post-6334881634122012162014-11-22T22:42:01.423-05:002014-11-22T22:42:01.423-05:00Great post!Great post!Timhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08953862502571028176noreply@blogger.com